twist.of.faith Subtitles

00:00:11,711 --> 00:00:13,State your name for the record.

00:00:13,446 --> 00:00:15,Dennis Gray.

00:00:16,883 --> 00:00:19,- Where were you born?
- Toledo, Ohio.

00:00:19,919 --> 00:00:22,- What year?
- '48.

00:00:22,756 --> 00:00:25,And where did you attend school?

00:00:25,825 --> 00:00:27,St. Charles grade school,

00:00:27,694 --> 00:00:29,Central Catholic high school.

00:00:29,696 --> 00:00:32,And what did you do after graduating
from high school?

00:00:32,899 --> 00:00:36,I went into seminary - St. Gregory, Cincinnati.

00:00:36,803 --> 00:00:39,Why did you decide to go into the seminary?

00:00:41,174 --> 00:00:44,I decided that it would be a good life
if I was a priest.

00:02:30,216 --> 00:02:31,See that.

00:02:31,885 --> 00:02:35,We just g***t back from a fire. It was fun.

00:02:36,356 --> 00:02:40,Little attic fire. Wasn't much, but I'm filthy.

00:02:42,395 --> 00:02:45,This is the infamous fire pole.

00:02:45,532 --> 00:02:47,Every little kid's dream.

00:02:49,669 --> 00:02:51,- Tony!
- Yeah?

00:02:51,504 --> 00:02:53,Fire safety. Time to go!

00:02:53,773 --> 00:02:56,Anyhow, time to go.

00:03:01,881 --> 00:03:04,Any of you know what monsters look like?

00:03:04,117 --> 00:03:06,- They're slimy.
- Are they slimy?

00:03:06,853 --> 00:03:10,- Are they really big?
- They have 10,000 eyes.

00:03:10,123 --> 00:03:13,A lot of eyes? They g***t blinking stuff on them?

00:03:14,861 --> 00:03:19,What I want to show you is that
what you might think a monster looks like,

00:03:19,065 --> 00:03:23,is a lot what a fireman looks like
when he comes to your house at night.

00:03:23,269 --> 00:03:25,OK, more or less like a monster?

00:03:25,605 --> 00:03:27,No!

00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:29,If you put the neck on.

00:03:29,342 --> 00:03:32,- What about now?
- Now!

00:03:32,645 --> 00:03:35,What about now? Look. ** I a monster?

00:03:35,315 --> 00:03:37,No!

00:03:37,450 --> 00:03:42,This is me coming into my neighborhood
every day for the last six months.

00:03:43,022 --> 00:03:47,This is a nice park - one of the big things
that attracted us to the neighborhood.

00:03:47,660 --> 00:03:49,Right in there, there's a walking trail,

00:03:49,963 --> 00:03:52,public grade school's way back in there.

00:03:52,932 --> 00:03:54,It's like living in the forest.

00:03:56,936 --> 00:03:59,Hi, honey. Your hair looks great.

00:04:00,340 --> 00:04:02,Thanks!

00:04:02,742 --> 00:04:04,Mitch. Hey, Sam.

00:04:05,712 --> 00:04:07,You guys go in the family room.

00:04:10,149 --> 00:04:12,What makes it all worth it, right there.

00:04:12,952 --> 00:04:15,Hey, Daddy, I can do somersaults.

00:04:15,121 --> 00:04:17,- You can?
- Yeah. Watch.

00:04:17,624 --> 00:04:19,All right.

00:04:21,527 --> 00:04:23,Salt of the earth.

00:04:29,369 --> 00:04:31,Mitchel? You gotta go to bed.

00:04:32,405 --> 00:04:35,Remember that secret
you were gonna tell Mommy?

00:04:42,081 --> 00:04:43,Here, Mitchel.

00:04:43,750 --> 00:04:46,Go. Go fast. She won't even see you.

00:04:46,619 --> 00:04:48,- Tell me about Tony Comes.
- Just a friend.

00:04:48,821 --> 00:04:49,A good friend?

00:04:50,223 --> 00:04:52,He was a friend.

00:04:52,358 --> 00:04:55,- And how did you know Tony?
- He was from school.

00:04:55,361 --> 00:04:57,- What school?
- Central.

00:04:57,163 --> 00:05:01,- As a student?
- Correct. And as a fireman.

00:05:01,968 --> 00:05:04,You knew him when he was a child, right?

00:05:04,637 --> 00:05:06,Teenager.

00:05:06,205 --> 00:05:08,And you ever take him out to the cottage?

00:05:08,708 --> 00:05:10,He would come up different times.

00:05:11,611 --> 00:05:13,He'd usually drive himself.

00:05:14,347 --> 00:05:17,What kind of relationship did you
have with Tony?

00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:19,More of a counselor.

00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:24,He g***t us out of a lot of trouble.
He g***t me out of a lot of trouble.

00:05:24,590 --> 00:05:27,You're late for class, you go to his office.

00:05:30,830 --> 00:05:34,He did a lot of fun s***t. He took you
to the racetrack, he took you to...

00:05:34,567 --> 00:05:36,He took me out to eat.

00:05:36,602 --> 00:05:41,In a family of seven kids, we didn't
eat out much. McDonald's was a big deal.

00:05:42,909 --> 00:05:46,He'd pick on you.
His constant comment to me was,

00:05:46,713 --> 00:05:50,"Comes, you're the only person I know
that would f***k up a wet dream."

00:05:50,249 --> 00:05:53,At the time, it was, "Ha-ha, funny."

00:05:53,419 --> 00:05:56,Now it's, OK, he mentions "wet dream."

00:05:56,923 --> 00:05:59,And he said it all the time.

00:05:59,092 --> 00:06:02,Was this part of some conditioning process?

00:06:02,428 --> 00:06:07,It screws with you to the point where
you wonder, "How much was I manipulated,

00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:09,"and at what point did I graduate

00:06:09,202 --> 00:06:12,"to the 'Now it's appropriate
to f***g try something with this kid'?"

00:06:14,140 --> 00:06:18,Did the church ever provide you, or any
of the Catholic schools at which you taught,

00:06:18,177 --> 00:06:23,any guidelines as to what conduct was
considered to be inappropriate with a minor?

00:06:23,683 --> 00:06:25,No.

00:06:25,051 --> 00:06:29,Did they ever advise you as to when, if at all,

00:06:30,690 --> 00:06:33,- child abuse should be reported?
- No.

00:06:33,493 --> 00:06:35,Did they ever advise you when, if at all,

00:06:35,595 --> 00:06:38,sexual contact with a minor
should be reported or to whom?

00:06:38,798 --> 00:06:40,Nope.

00:06:49,442 --> 00:06:51,The place I was first molested

00:06:51,544 --> 00:06:53,is the rectory at St. Joseph.

00:06:54,881 --> 00:06:59,Every day I gotta go to my psychologist's
office, I gotta drive by this place.

00:07:03,356 --> 00:07:06,An invitation to Denny Gray's cottage was...

00:07:10,563 --> 00:07:12,That was where it was at.

00:07:12,265 --> 00:07:14,You could smoke, you could drink,

00:07:14,233 --> 00:07:16,rake a pile of leaves 12 foot high,

00:07:16,302 --> 00:07:19,dump a half a can of gas on it and light it,
and nobody gives a s***t.

00:07:19,405 --> 00:07:21,It was f***g cool.

00:07:21,941 --> 00:07:25,And once I started getting abused,
for one reason or another,

00:07:25,745 --> 00:07:28,I convinced myself
that that was still the better option.

00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:32,Which I don't quite get.

00:07:34,253 --> 00:07:37,Did you ever put your p***s
in the mouths of any students

00:07:37,390 --> 00:07:42,- when you were at central Catholic?
- Objection. Fifth amendment. Do not answer.

00:07:43,229 --> 00:07:46,Did you ever put the penises
of any of your students in your mouth...

00:07:47,033 --> 00:07:50,- Same objection.
- ... while at Central Catholic?

00:07:50,203 --> 00:07:52,Do not answer.

00:07:53,539 --> 00:07:58,Did you ever put your p***s in the anus
of any of your students...

00:07:58,077 --> 00:08:01,- Continuing objection.
- ... while you were at Central Catholic?

00:08:01,047 --> 00:08:03,Continuing objection. Do not answer.

00:08:05,184 --> 00:08:09,If you can imagine laying there
as still as can be, just...

00:08:10,022 --> 00:08:12,I was asleep and then, as I came to,

00:08:13,860 --> 00:08:15,I was like, "Oh..."

00:08:16,462 --> 00:08:19,Realized what was happening

00:08:19,365 --> 00:08:23,and just kept my eyes closed

00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:27,and waited for it to be done.

00:08:27,273 --> 00:08:28,And by done, I mean done.

00:08:30,042 --> 00:08:32,It's like there's a siren going off in your head

00:08:32,211 --> 00:08:35,"this is not happening, this is not happening,"

00:08:37,383 --> 00:08:39,yet, the reality that it is happening

00:08:39,652 --> 00:08:43,and you're trying to figure out why
and what the hell do I do?

00:08:43,089 --> 00:08:46,And being so confounded that you do nothing,

00:08:48,027 --> 00:08:50,that you just f***g freeze.

00:08:55,434 --> 00:08:57,And then the shame, after,

00:08:57,937 --> 00:09:01,or now, at 20, or you know, 33 years old,

00:09:01,507 --> 00:09:05,that I didn't sit up and just f***g punch him
square in the face.

00:09:05,811 --> 00:09:07,You know?

00:09:10,950 --> 00:09:13,You're still feeling yucky?

00:09:13,953 --> 00:09:16,- Your teeth hurt?
- Yes.

00:09:16,322 --> 00:09:18,Yeah?

00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:22,So what do I need to ask Grandma?

00:09:24,063 --> 00:09:27,- To check my teeth.
- Check your teeth for what?

00:09:27,466 --> 00:09:30,To make it... to see if it's better?

00:09:31,637 --> 00:09:33,- To see if it'll get better?...