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Subtitles by explosiveskull
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Our next guest is a free soloing
phenomenon, please welcome Alex Honnold.
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Here is what I
don't understand.
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One little mistake, one little
slip, and you fall and die.
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Yeah, I mean, uh, you
seem to understand it well...
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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And I feel like anybody could
conceivably die on any given day.
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Soloing makes it feel far more
immediate and much more present.
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Does it feel different
to be up there without a rope?
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When you're climbing without
a rope, it's obviously like
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much higher consequence, much,
much higher level of focus.
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You know, it's a whole
different experience.
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So it's not like I'm just
pushing and pushing and pushing
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until something
terrible happens.
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I don't look at it, like,
with that perspective.
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But maybe that's why
it's dangerous for me.
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Maybe I'm too close to it and I can't
tell that I'm speeding towards a cliff.
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Okay.
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I like to differentiate
between risk and consequence.
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You know, when I'm doing these hard free
solos I like to think that the risk,
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you know, the chance
of me falling off is
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quite low even though the
consequence is extremely high.
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And that's kind of like one of the
appeals of free soloing, you know,
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to take something that seems difficult
and dangerous and make it feel safe.
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So, do you think that, uh, being a rock
climber has been a positive or negative
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for your dating life?
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My dating life?
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Yeah.
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I think, uh, I think
overall it's been a negative.
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Um, I just travel too
much and I live in a car.
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Let's talk through some of
the climbing adventures you've had.
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The historic free solo
climb, Moonlight Buttress.
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When I did it, it was like,
"Oh," you know, kind of groundbreaking,
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kind of extreme.
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But for me it always felt
quite easy and pretty secure.
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Well, that wasn't where you
stopped, because that next challenge then
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was free soloing Half Dome.
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Half Dome was a huge step for me
because it was twice as big as anything
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I'd ever soloed.
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Free soloing is so
dangerous that less than 1% of people
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who climb attempt it.
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Alex has done more than 1,000 free solo
climbs, but none were tougher than this one.
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I g***t quite scared in some places,
and then you start to panic a little bit.
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And then you have to,
like, reel it all back in.
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What is next in
free solo climbing?
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Well, I don't know, I mean,
I've thought about El Cap, like,
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for years and every
year I look at it and I'm like,
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"That's really scary."
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Um, well, I've never even wanted to
really, or I've always wanted to but then
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I've always been like,
"That's too scary."
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I'm aiming towards the most
beautiful valley on earth.
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I remember coming to Yosemite as a little
kid and my dad would always have a little
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cooler in the back of the car, and
have our cookies in the cold milk,
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and we'd sit on these slabs above
Tunnel View, which is, like,
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the most epic
view of Yosemite.
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As soon as you see El Cap it's like,
"Oh, there it is, pretty exciting."
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El Cap is the most
impressive wall on earth.
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Yeah, I mean I love,
I love being in the van.
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I probably feel extra comfortable
in the van now because I've lived
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in it for nine years.
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My first van, well, I actually
stole the family minivan.
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My dad died when I was
19 and I, I quit school.
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There was some life insurance.
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I had just enough to dirt bag.
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Six years ago I was living in a Walmart
parking lot and spending eighty-eight cents
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on dinner every night.
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Living in a van is great but, you know,
at a certain point it'd be nice to have a
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bathroom and have,
like, a shower at least.
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So you have a
girlfriend now, I heard.
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- Hmm, trending towards one.
- Trending towards?
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Hmm, I mean, she's very supportive
about, like, you know, you have to do you.
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Yeah we'll, we'll see.
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But yeah, there probably will be
plenty of girlfriends in my life,
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you know, in terms of,
like, big climbing,
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lifetime achievement deals,
where you're just like, well,
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like I will always choose
climbing, over, over a lady.
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At least, you know, so far.
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How many times have
you climbed El Cap?
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Probably like 40
something maybe.
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- You ever free solo? -No and nobody has.
- Why haven't you done it yet?
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Um, look at it, like, I mean, you know,
think about it, it's freaking scary.
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I don't know, so I mean I've thought about
this since 2009, like, each year since 2009,
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I've been like, "This is the year,"
and each year I climb it and I'm like,
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"This isn't the year, like,
this is f***d," you know.
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So I'm like, "Uh." But the
thing is I'll never be content,
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unless I at least
put in the effort.
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Because, like, if I do all the work and
I'm still like, "This is messed up,"
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then maybe it's just not for me,
maybe its future generation, you know.
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Or maybe just somebody who
has nothing to live for.
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When I thought about El Cap years ago, there
were question marks all over the walls.
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It's like I don't know about this
pitch, I don't know about that pitch,
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like I don't know about this particular
slab, there are all these things that
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seem pretty crazy to me.
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If the ultimate dream is to solo El Cap,
then I need a good map of what that will
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take, you know, like a, a mental image of
what the hard parts are, where they are,
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what they will entail.
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If I'm going to do it, Free
Rider seems like the best route.
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Oh, hi.
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What's up, dude?
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Oh, hey.
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Oh, actually, I might as well just
rack it straight onto my harness.
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So, do you wanna lead
the Freeblast or do I?
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I feel like we should do what we did
before which would be you lead the, yeah,
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you lead the Freeblast.
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So, basically I'll just try
to take it, like, as far as I can.
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Yeah.
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So Tommy just g***t here
and they're going up Freerider.
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Okay.
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I'm just gonna try to shoot this
pitch and the traverse pitch and then
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I'm gonna jug out
like a maniac.
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Okay.
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Do we...
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