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1 00:00:13,866 --> 00:00:18,866 Subtitles by explosiveskull 2 00:01:23,507 --> 00:01:27,912 Our next guest is a free soloing phenomenon, please welcome Alex Honnold. 3 00:01:31,781 --> 00:01:34,716 Here is what I don't understand. 4 00:01:34,718 --> 00:01:38,923 One little mistake, one little slip, and you fall and die. 5 00:01:40,090 --> 00:01:43,725 Yeah, I mean, uh, you seem to understand it well... 6 00:01:43,727 --> 00:01:46,364 - Yeah. - Yeah. 7 00:01:47,197 --> 00:01:50,901 And I feel like anybody could conceivably die on any given day. 8 00:01:51,903 --> 00:01:56,507 Soloing makes it feel far more immediate and much more present. 9 00:01:58,841 --> 00:02:02,614 Does it feel different to be up there without a rope? 10 00:02:03,281 --> 00:02:05,713 When you're climbing without a rope, it's obviously like 11 00:02:05,715 --> 00:02:08,417 much higher consequence, much, much higher level of focus. 12 00:02:08,419 --> 00:02:11,656 You know, it's a whole different experience. 13 00:02:12,823 --> 00:02:15,656 So it's not like I'm just pushing and pushing and pushing 14 00:02:15,658 --> 00:02:17,559 until something terrible happens. 15 00:02:17,561 --> 00:02:20,465 I don't look at it, like, with that perspective. 16 00:02:21,431 --> 00:02:24,632 But maybe that's why it's dangerous for me. 17 00:02:24,634 --> 00:02:28,772 Maybe I'm too close to it and I can't tell that I'm speeding towards a cliff. 18 00:02:45,521 --> 00:02:47,724 Okay. 19 00:02:58,701 --> 00:03:01,102 I like to differentiate between risk and consequence. 20 00:03:01,104 --> 00:03:04,138 You know, when I'm doing these hard free solos I like to think that the risk, 21 00:03:04,140 --> 00:03:05,906 you know, the chance of me falling off is 22 00:03:05,908 --> 00:03:08,143 quite low even though the consequence is extremely high. 23 00:03:08,145 --> 00:03:10,679 And that's kind of like one of the appeals of free soloing, you know, 24 00:03:10,681 --> 00:03:14,385 to take something that seems difficult and dangerous and make it feel safe. 25 00:03:14,585 --> 00:03:18,653 So, do you think that, uh, being a rock climber has been a positive or negative 26 00:03:18,655 --> 00:03:20,454 for your dating life? 27 00:03:20,456 --> 00:03:21,822 My dating life? 28 00:03:21,824 --> 00:03:22,958 Yeah. 29 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,827 I think, uh, I think overall it's been a negative. 30 00:03:25,829 --> 00:03:28,832 Um, I just travel too much and I live in a car. 31 00:03:35,438 --> 00:03:38,575 Let's talk through some of the climbing adventures you've had. 32 00:03:38,908 --> 00:03:41,643 The historic free solo climb, Moonlight Buttress. 33 00:03:41,645 --> 00:03:44,745 When I did it, it was like, "Oh," you know, kind of groundbreaking, 34 00:03:44,747 --> 00:03:46,781 kind of extreme. 35 00:03:46,783 --> 00:03:50,087 But for me it always felt quite easy and pretty secure. 36 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,621 Well, that wasn't where you stopped, because that next challenge then 37 00:03:53,623 --> 00:03:55,826 was free soloing Half Dome. 38 00:03:56,593 --> 00:04:00,195 Half Dome was a huge step for me because it was twice as big as anything 39 00:04:00,197 --> 00:04:02,432 I'd ever soloed. 40 00:04:03,332 --> 00:04:06,868 Free soloing is so dangerous that less than 1% of people 41 00:04:06,870 --> 00:04:08,872 who climb attempt it. 42 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:13,911 Alex has done more than 1,000 free solo climbs, but none were tougher than this one. 43 00:04:16,547 --> 00:04:19,751 I g***t quite scared in some places, and then you start to panic a little bit. 44 00:04:20,084 --> 00:04:23,120 And then you have to, like, reel it all back in. 45 00:04:25,456 --> 00:04:28,526 What is next in free solo climbing? 46 00:04:28,759 --> 00:04:30,992 Well, I don't know, I mean, I've thought about El Cap, like, 47 00:04:30,994 --> 00:04:32,993 for years and every year I look at it and I'm like, 48 00:04:32,995 --> 00:04:34,596 "That's really scary." 49 00:04:34,598 --> 00:04:37,798 Um, well, I've never even wanted to really, or I've always wanted to but then 50 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,604 I've always been like, "That's too scary." 51 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,079 I'm aiming towards the most beautiful valley on earth. 52 00:04:48,913 --> 00:04:52,613 I remember coming to Yosemite as a little kid and my dad would always have a little 53 00:04:52,615 --> 00:04:55,483 cooler in the back of the car, and have our cookies in the cold milk, 54 00:04:55,485 --> 00:04:58,820 and we'd sit on these slabs above Tunnel View, which is, like, 55 00:04:58,822 --> 00:05:01,658 the most epic view of Yosemite. 56 00:05:01,891 --> 00:05:06,029 As soon as you see El Cap it's like, "Oh, there it is, pretty exciting." 57 00:05:08,932 --> 00:05:13,204 El Cap is the most impressive wall on earth. 58 00:05:55,812 --> 00:05:58,546 Yeah, I mean I love, I love being in the van. 59 00:05:58,548 --> 00:06:01,015 I probably feel extra comfortable in the van now because I've lived 60 00:06:01,017 --> 00:06:03,584 in it for nine years. 61 00:06:03,586 --> 00:06:06,921 My first van, well, I actually stole the family minivan. 62 00:06:06,923 --> 00:06:10,224 My dad died when I was 19 and I, I quit school. 63 00:06:10,226 --> 00:06:12,726 There was some life insurance. 64 00:06:12,728 --> 00:06:15,663 I had just enough to dirt bag. 65 00:06:15,665 --> 00:06:19,334 Six years ago I was living in a Walmart parking lot and spending eighty-eight cents 66 00:06:19,336 --> 00:06:22,273 on dinner every night. 67 00:06:22,473 --> 00:06:25,606 Living in a van is great but, you know, at a certain point it'd be nice to have a 68 00:06:25,608 --> 00:06:29,145 bathroom and have, like, a shower at least. 69 00:06:35,952 --> 00:06:37,685 So you have a girlfriend now, I heard. 70 00:06:37,687 --> 00:06:39,954 - Hmm, trending towards one. - Trending towards? 71 00:06:39,956 --> 00:06:44,728 Hmm, I mean, she's very supportive about, like, you know, you have to do you. 72 00:06:45,295 --> 00:06:46,728 Yeah we'll, we'll see. 73 00:06:46,730 --> 00:06:50,332 But yeah, there probably will be plenty of girlfriends in my life, 74 00:06:50,334 --> 00:06:52,867 you know, in terms of, like, big climbing, 75 00:06:52,869 --> 00:06:56,303 lifetime achievement deals, where you're just like, well, 76 00:06:56,305 --> 00:07:00,108 like I will always choose climbing, over, over a lady. 77 00:07:00,110 --> 00:07:02,312 At least, you know, so far. 78 00:07:04,982 --> 00:07:07,315 How many times have you climbed El Cap? 79 00:07:07,317 --> 00:07:08,817 Probably like 40 something maybe. 80 00:07:08,819 --> 00:07:13,954 - You ever free solo? -No and nobody has. - Why haven't you done it yet? 81 00:07:13,956 --> 00:07:17,295 Um, look at it, like, I mean, you know, think about it, it's freaking scary. 82 00:07:18,228 --> 00:07:22,329 I don't know, so I mean I've thought about this since 2009, like, each year since 2009, 83 00:07:22,331 --> 00:07:24,899 I've been like, "This is the year," and each year I climb it and I'm like, 84 00:07:24,901 --> 00:07:27,668 "This isn't the year, like, this is f***d," you know. 85 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:30,171 So I'm like, "Uh." But the thing is I'll never be content, 86 00:07:30,173 --> 00:07:31,738 unless I at least put in the effort. 87 00:07:31,740 --> 00:07:34,375 Because, like, if I do all the work and I'm still like, "This is messed up," 88 00:07:34,377 --> 00:07:37,978 then maybe it's just not for me, maybe its future generation, you know. 89 00:07:37,980 --> 00:07:41,117 Or maybe just somebody who has nothing to live for. 90 00:07:51,327 --> 00:07:55,131 When I thought about El Cap years ago, there were question marks all over the walls. 91 00:07:55,932 --> 00:07:58,265 It's like I don't know about this pitch, I don't know about that pitch, 92 00:07:58,267 --> 00:08:00,901 like I don't know about this particular slab, there are all these things that 93 00:08:00,903 --> 00:08:04,105 seem pretty crazy to me. 94 00:08:04,107 --> 00:08:10,045 If the ultimate dream is to solo El Cap, then I need a good map of what that will 95 00:08:10,047 --> 00:08:15,149 take, you know, like a, a mental image of what the hard parts are, where they are, 96 00:08:15,151 --> 00:08:18,055 what they will entail. 97 00:08:18,555 --> 00:08:21,959 If I'm going to do it, Free Rider seems like the best route. 98 00:08:27,129 --> 00:08:28,363 Oh, hi. 99 00:08:28,365 --> 00:08:30,231 What's up, dude? 100 00:08:30,233 --> 00:08:32,199 Oh, hey. 101 00:08:32,201 --> 00:08:35,139 Oh, actually, I might as well just rack it straight onto my harness. 102 00:08:35,706 --> 00:08:37,339 So, do you wanna lead the Freeblast or do I? 103 00:08:37,341 --> 00:08:41,475 I feel like we should do what we did before which would be you lead the, yeah, 104 00:08:41,477 --> 00:08:43,777 you lead the Freeblast. 105 00:08:43,779 --> 00:08:45,879 So, basically I'll just try to take it, like, as far as I can. 106 00:08:45,881 --> 00:08:47,884 Yeah. 107 00:08:52,456 --> 00:08:55,256 So Tommy just g***t here and they're going up Freerider. 108 00:08:55,258 --> 00:08:56,657 Okay. 109 00:08:56,659 --> 00:08:59,893 I'm just gonna try to shoot this pitch and the traverse pitch and then 110 00:08:59,895 --> 00:09:01,998 I'm gonna jug out like a maniac. 111 00:09:02,365 --> 00:09:03,363 Okay. 112 00:09:03,365 --> 00:09:05,199 Do we...
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