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1 00:01:18,833 --> 00:01:20,364 You ready? 2 00:01:20,500 --> 00:01:23,597 No, just... Yeah, just-just ignore the microphone. 3 00:01:23,732 --> 00:01:25,605 Yeah, just-just act as if it's not there. 4 00:01:25,741 --> 00:01:28,306 Sing as if it's not there. 5 00:01:28,441 --> 00:01:32,011 Yeah... 6 00:01:40,389 --> 00:01:41,580 Okay? 7 00:05:45,164 --> 00:05:47,127 - Ready for them? - Yes. 8 00:05:47,262 --> 00:05:48,403 Let's go. 9 00:05:56,204 --> 00:05:58,313 If you're here, then you already know 10 00:05:58,448 --> 00:06:00,749 who she is, and that is one of the most important 11 00:06:00,884 --> 00:06:03,146 musical figures of our time. 12 00:06:03,282 --> 00:06:05,210 Lydia Tár is many things: 13 00:06:05,346 --> 00:06:08,647 A piano performance graduate at the Curtis Institute, 14 00:06:08,782 --> 00:06:11,152 Phi Beta Kappa from Harvard. 15 00:06:11,287 --> 00:06:15,327 She g***t her PhD in Musicology from the University of Vienna, 16 00:06:15,463 --> 00:06:17,924 specializing in the indigenous music 17 00:06:18,059 --> 00:06:20,900 of the Ucayali Valley in Eastern Peru, 18 00:06:21,036 --> 00:06:22,936 where she spent five years 19 00:06:23,071 --> 00:06:24,930 among the Shipibo-Konibo peopl. 20 00:06:25,066 --> 00:06:28,568 As a conductor, Tár began her career 21 00:06:28,703 --> 00:06:29,935 with the Cleveland Orchestra, 22 00:06:30,070 --> 00:06:31,542 one of the so-called "Big Five." 23 00:06:31,677 --> 00:06:33,841 A string of important posts followed, 24 00:06:33,976 --> 00:06:36,344 including the Philadelphia Orchestra, 25 00:06:36,479 --> 00:06:37,719 the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, 26 00:06:37,844 --> 00:06:39,084 the Boston Symphony Orchestra, 27 00:06:39,186 --> 00:06:40,956 until she at last arrived here 28 00:06:41,091 --> 00:06:44,056 at our own New York Philharmonic. 29 00:06:44,191 --> 00:06:45,523 With the latter, she organized 30 00:06:45,658 --> 00:06:48,130 the Highway 10 refugee concerts in Zaatari, 31 00:06:48,265 --> 00:06:52,529 which were attended by over 75,000 people. 32 00:06:52,665 --> 00:06:54,201 She's become particularly well-known 33 00:06:54,337 --> 00:06:56,029 for commissioning contemporary work 34 00:06:56,165 --> 00:06:59,239 from, among others, Jennifer Higdon, Caroline Shaw, 35 00:06:59,374 --> 00:07:01,705 Julia Wolfe and Hildur Gudnadóttir. 36 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:04,871 And she's made a point of programming their works 37 00:07:05,006 --> 00:07:07,948 alongside composers of the canon. 38 00:07:08,083 --> 00:07:09,382 She's been quoted as saying, 39 00:07:09,518 --> 00:07:12,219 "These composers are having a conversation 40 00:07:12,354 --> 00:07:15,215 and it may not always be so polite." 41 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:17,823 Lydia Tár has also written music for the stage and screen. 42 00:07:17,958 --> 00:07:22,562 She is in fact one of only 15 so-called EGOTs, meaning those 43 00:07:22,697 --> 00:07:26,894 who have won all four major entertainment awards: 44 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:30,563 An Emmy, a Grammy, an Oscar and a Tony. 45 00:07:30,699 --> 00:07:32,141 It is, as you can imagine, 46 00:07:32,276 --> 00:07:34,605 an extremely short and shimmering list 47 00:07:34,741 --> 00:07:37,774 that includes Richard Rodgers, Audrey Hepburn, 48 00:07:37,910 --> 00:07:41,683 Andrew Lloyd Webber and, of course, Mel Brooks. 49 00:07:45,719 --> 00:07:48,915 In 2010, with the support of Eliot Kaplan, 50 00:07:49,051 --> 00:07:51,921 she founded the Accordion Conducting Fellowship, 51 00:07:52,057 --> 00:07:54,954 which fosters entrepreneurship and performance opportunities 52 00:07:55,090 --> 00:07:58,166 for female conductors, allowing them residencies 53 00:07:58,301 --> 00:08:01,094 with major orchestras around the world. 54 00:08:01,230 --> 00:08:06,203 In 2013, Berlin elected Tár as its principal conductor, 55 00:08:06,339 --> 00:08:08,801 in succession to Andris Davis, 56 00:08:08,937 --> 00:08:11,771 and she's remained there ever since. 57 00:08:11,906 --> 00:08:13,610 Like her mentor, Leonard Bernstein, 58 00:08:13,745 --> 00:08:16,776 Tár has a particular affinity for Mahler, 59 00:08:16,912 --> 00:08:18,952 whose nine symphonies she recorded 60 00:08:19,087 --> 00:08:21,246 during her Big Five stints. 61 00:08:22,149 --> 00:08:23,721 However, she never managed to complete 62 00:08:23,857 --> 00:08:27,453 the so-called "cycle" with a single orchestra until now. 63 00:08:27,589 --> 00:08:28,858 Under her direction, 64 00:08:28,993 --> 00:08:30,993 Berlin has recorded eight of the Mahler symphonies, 65 00:08:31,093 --> 00:08:33,794 saving the big one, Symphony No. 5, for last. 66 00:08:33,930 --> 00:08:35,864 Due to the pandemic, that performance, 67 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,631 which was scheduled for last year, had to be canceled. 68 00:08:38,767 --> 00:08:40,473 But I'm told that next month, 69 00:08:40,608 --> 00:08:43,174 she'll make a live recording of Mahler's Fifth, 70 00:08:43,310 --> 00:08:44,807 which will complete the cycle 71 00:08:44,942 --> 00:08:48,478 and will be issued in a box set by Deutsche Grammophon 72 00:08:48,614 --> 00:08:50,649 just in time for Mahler's birthday. 73 00:08:50,785 --> 00:08:54,520 As if that's not enough, her new book, Tár on Tár, 74 00:08:54,656 --> 00:08:58,316 will be published by Nan Talese's imprint at Doubleday, 75 00:08:58,452 --> 00:09:01,493 just in time for Christmas, a perfect stocking stuffer, 76 00:09:01,629 --> 00:09:03,896 especially if you have a very large stocking. 77 00:09:05,566 --> 00:09:07,126 All of us at The New Yorker welcome you. 78 00:09:07,238 --> 00:09:08,936 Thank you for joining us, Maestro, today. 79 00:09:09,071 --> 00:09:10,763 Thank you, Adam. Thank you. 80 00:09:10,898 --> 00:09:13,373 Thank you. 81 00:09:14,702 --> 00:09:16,609 Lydia, I couldn't... 82 00:09:16,744 --> 00:09:19,946 I couldn't help but see you flinch just a little bit 83 00:09:20,082 --> 00:09:21,580 as I was reading your bio. 84 00:09:21,715 --> 00:09:23,875 Was it because I forgot some other amazing achievement? 85 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:26,271 Or do you have a slight self-consciousness 86 00:09:26,322 --> 00:09:28,350 about the incredibly varied things 87 00:09:28,486 --> 00:09:30,391 that you've accomplished? 88 00:09:30,526 --> 00:09:35,525 Well, in today's world, "varied," it-it's a dirty word. 89 00:09:35,661 --> 00:09:37,629 I mean, our era is one of specialists, 90 00:09:37,764 --> 00:09:40,563 and if you're trying to do more than one thing, 91 00:09:40,699 --> 00:09:42,365 it's, you know, it's often frowned upon. 92 00:09:42,500 --> 00:09:43,970 Every artist gets typecast. 93 00:09:44,106 --> 00:09:45,472 Oh, yes. Aggressively so. 94 00:09:45,607 --> 00:09:47,487 Well, do you think there'll be a moment, though, 95 00:09:47,512 --> 00:09:49,409 when the classical music community, 96 00:09:49,544 --> 00:09:52,880 decides not to use sexual distinctions 97 00:09:53,016 --> 00:09:55,050 to differentiate artists? 98 00:09:55,186 --> 00:09:57,250 I'm probably the wrong person to ask 99 00:09:57,386 --> 00:09:59,711 since I don't read reviews. 100 00:09:59,847 --> 00:10:01,280 - Never, really? - No. 101 00:10:01,416 --> 00:10:05,491 But it is odd, I think, that anyone ever felt compelled 102 00:10:05,626 --> 00:10:08,463 to substitute "maestro" with "maestra." 103 00:10:08,599 --> 00:10:11,794 I mean, we don't call women astronauts "astronettes." 104 00:10:11,929 --> 00:10:13,565 Right. 105 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:17,338 But as to the question of gender bias, 106 00:10:17,473 --> 00:10:19,903 I really have nothing to complain about. 107 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:23,069 Nor, for that matter, should Marin Alsop, JoAnn Falletta, 108 00:10:23,204 --> 00:10:25,345 Laurence Equilbey and Nathalie Stutzmann. 109 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,112 I mean, there's so many incredible women 110 00:10:28,248 --> 00:10:29,581 who came before us. 111 00:10:29,716 --> 00:10:32,017 You know, women who did the-the real lifting. 112 00:10:32,153 --> 00:10:33,251 That-that's fascinating. 113 00:10:33,387 --> 00:10:35,250 Can you... Who, for instance? 114 00:10:35,385 --> 00:10:36,488 Okay, sure. 115 00:10:36,623 --> 00:10:38,689 First and foremost, Nadia Boulanger. 116 00:10:38,824 --> 00:10:41,657 I mean, that would be the happy example. 117 00:10:41,793 --> 00:10:44,927 The sad one would be Antonia Brico, 118 00:10:45,062 --> 00:10:47,831 who by all accounts was an incredible conductor 119 00:10:47,966 --> 00:10:51,202 but was ghettoized into the nonglamorous status 120 00:10:51,337 --> 00:10:53,273 of a "guest conductor" 121 00:10:53,409 --> 00:10:56,177 and essentially treated as a dog act. 122 00:10:56,313 --> 00:10:58,440 A dog... She never g***t the chance 123 00:10:58,576 --> 00:10:59,616 to lead a major orchestra? 124 00:10:59,745 --> 00:11:01,680 Well, yes. Yes, she did conduct 125 00:11:01,816 --> 00:11:04,109 the Berlin Philharmonic, as well as the Met, 126 00:11:04,245 --> 00:11:07,278 but, again, only as a guest conductor. 127 00:11:07,414 --> 00:11:09,134 You know, at, I mean, at that time it was... 128 00:11:09,257 --> 00:11:11,388 it was all gender spectacle. 129 00:11:11,524 --> 00:11:13,052 But fortunately, times...